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Deakon · Mar 05, 2010, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by byteme!

PvE is easy. I've been in this forum for a long time. I've mentioned that many many times. My PvE giving satisfactory rewards comment was in comparison to PvP. Then again I guess that depends what you consider a reward. If you want to put words in my mouth so be it but that's not what I said or meant to say.

You smell the irony?

It's "see" the irony. You "smell" what The Rock is cookin'. lol But yeah... PvE is easy.

Banane-O-Man · Mar 05, 2010, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Yes it's true Guild Wars is rotting, but eh, I stopped playing.

jazilla · Mar 05, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I think that ArenaNet was very business savvy when they introduced the PvE only skills in EOTN along with the very large amount of titles that are attached to that expansion. I don't know if they realized what it would do to the game though. Either that or they really didnt care because they were just making money for GW2 which they thought would be out a lot sooner than it is actually shipping.

Laraja · Mar 10, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Oleg

I've never been able to understand why people who don't like GW are still active in the forums. The-Bigz original post seemed like a genuine question. The vast majority of the responses seem to boil down to "Anet sucks and so does GW". If you don't like it, leave. Once you've left, leave the forums too.

My guild is active. The player base from my perspective is strong and there is a lot to do. If you don't find the same then it may be time to change guilds. The one thing you have complete control over is how you approach the game. If it isn't working for you, change what you do.

I grew bored of GW about a year ago and shelved it for a few months. For me that worked and I returned happier than ever. If it has grown stale for you, either approach the game a different way or put it aside for a while. When all is said and done the game is there for your entertainment. If you don't enjoy it, walk away.

For me who I play the GW with is far more important than the actual game. Maybe you just need to hang out with a different bunch.

For all of those people who whinge and moan about GW, state how you would like the game to be rather than what you don't like about it. You want updates? What exactly? What is it you're looking for? If you don't have at least one possible solution to a problem then it isn't really a problem, it's just a whine.

I think Oleg and I have a vulcan Mind meld. This is exactly what I think.

I recently tried to play Everquest because of all the add ons they have and it's a quest based game (or so they say) and quests are my thing. Wow, could they make the characters any uglier? If I'm going to play a character for hours on end, at least give me something attractive to look at, or give me the option of making it attractive. Anyway, sorry for the side rant, after playing Everquest, it makes me realized that Anet may have got some things wrong, but they got most of it right. GW has ruined me to anything else. Everquest? Deinstall.

shadowhand · Mar 11, 2010, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by The-Bigz

Edit: I would also like to note, after reading what some of the community has to say here - Most of the skill updates and etc are being made for PvE and GvG. This leaves little room for the veteran player that doesn't feel like stressing over the game or a new player trying out aspects of the game and learning about it.

Wait, so you claim to speak for all players that are veterans or new? I for one am neither I guess. I only got the game in mid 2005.

Anyway, skill balances are necessary in a game like guild wars. The sheer amount of skill combinations means that the devs can't test every esoteric build out there before they add or change a skill.

And some exploits only become evident over time. Fixing these things aren't done for the sole purpose of annoying you personally. It's done to make the game more fair for everyone.

To level the playing ground if you will. You claim to like PvP, yet you are complaining about the removal of unfair advantages. Isn't that a bit... Shortsighted.

So, you didn't like a skill change. Well, guess what, neither did anyone else, but instead of complaining about it, why not try to find out a way to use that change for your own benefit? Has it ever occured to you that if you always use the same skill bar and never try something new then you'll be a very predictable opponent...

Experiment. Find new ways to use skills that aren't considered powerful or good.

Who knows. The next "way" flavour of the week build might have your name on it.

Or not... But for every nerf there's usually a buff somewhere to make up for it.

The-Bigz · Mar 11, 2010, 07:55 AM // 07:55

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Originally Posted by shadowhand

Wait, so you claim to speak for all players that are veterans or new? I for one am neither I guess. I only got the game in mid 2005.

Anyway, skill balances are necessary in a game like guild wars. The sheer amount of skill combinations means that the devs can't test every esoteric build out there before they add or change a skill.

And some exploits only become evident over time. Fixing these things aren't done for the sole purpose of annoying you personally. It's done to make the game more fair for everyone.

To level the playing ground if you will. You claim to like PvP, yet you are complaining about the removal of unfair advantages. Isn't that a bit... Shortsighted.

So, you didn't like a skill change. Well, guess what, neither did anyone else, but instead of complaining about it, why not try to find out a way to use that change for your own benefit? Has it ever occured to you that if you always use the same skill bar and never try something new then you'll be a very predictable opponent...

Experiment. Find new ways to use skills that aren't considered powerful or good.

Who knows. The next "way" flavour of the week build might have your name on it.

Or not... But for every nerf there's usually a buff somewhere to make up for it.

Don't you feel accomplished? But your whole post is wrong and throwing shit into my mouth that I didn't say makes you look dumber.

Let me rephrase that for your royal 2005 buying ass: I, and my guild of 43 other players, are getting retardedly bored with these even more simple ass builds being created. Every couple months the metagame shifts to 'run this or gtfo n00b'. I want to run a build, not load one. Me and my guild of 43 other players, who have had this game since 2007 or earlier, feel like the game has been massively degraded into shit, especially in PvP. And the first update in 6 months? BASED on PvE and Erf Shakur/Tactics were just thrown in there for the HA/GvG crowd.

Feel better?

shadowhand · Mar 11, 2010, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by The-Bigz

Don't you feel accomplished? But your whole post is wrong and throwing shit into my mouth that I didn't say makes you look dumber.

Let me rephrase that for your royal 2005 buying ass: I, and my guild of 43 other players, are getting retardedly bored with these even more simple ass builds being created. Every couple months the metagame shifts to 'run this or gtfo n00b'. I want to run a build, not load one. Me and my guild of 43 other players, who have had this game since 2007 or earlier, feel like the game has been massively degraded into shit, especially in PvP. And the first update in 6 months? BASED on PvE and Erf Shakur/Tactics were just thrown in there for the HA/GvG crowd.

Feel better?

Not really, I still have a terrible toothache.

I'm quite flattered that you took the time to compliment my nether parts though. Thank you

Anyway, my point still stands. If you are bored with the "simple builds being created" then make your own. If you have 43 guild mates then why do you care about what other people think you should play? Use a guild team.

Copenhagen Master · Mar 11, 2010, 08:37 AM // 08:37

I must agree.. I been playing this game since it came out. Mainly got bored with it, but it is always the same grind, no new material and the nerfs to SUPER builds came way too late. Since I liked GW so much I decided to try another one of there games which is AION. I must say I enjoy it very much and will continue to play it while I wait for GW2 to come out. GW has a nice run... just too boring now.

To Chicken To Die · Mar 11, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51

My /age sayed 58 months since today and all I can say what ruined they game was the addition of faction/NF and EoTN. Faction destroyed Prophics same with NF. While Prop was big awsome story more challenge with a decent balanced game play, and Faction and NF just crushed it with new skills, heroes and fast money making. And EoTN.... Come on PvE skills, Cons.... Dungeons were a nice update and new races such as asura oki cool. But it would have been more excited if faction would have been the next story such as pre to post was in prop. Once you go to faction lvl cap would rise more but you couldn't go back to prop anymore cus you finished it. To bad it was like this.

Artfull Fisherman · Mar 12, 2010, 03:41 AM // 03:41

After 53 mo I still like my Warrior.

El Perma Shadow · Mar 12, 2010, 04:23 AM // 04:23

You know what I find funny, its all the people who said "I've quit the game" or "It's a dead game" or anything of the sort, no offense to GW Guru, is what are you doing coming here to make a one-liner about how the game is dead and you aren't playing it. OP I know your feeling. Find something new, there is a real world out there, you just have to approach it the same way you would a HA match in 05'. Head on.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 12, 2010, 02:56 PM // 14:56

AB was my favourite game in the whole of GWs. I no longer play AB because the game is stuck on one map only. The only reason i became luxon is because i enjoyed playing on Ent. Keys. The is THE only reason initially. Now i am stuck at nearly r11 and half the time can;t be bothered playing FA and detest JQ. ANet killed my beloved AB, there really is no fun left in AB.

RA syncers? Well, seriously what did you expect when they removed TA? All the TA teams would come to RA and continue to farm glads. I need 12 more points to get glad 1 and then seriously considering moving back to HA or onto GvG unless i push onto g3.

re: lux title. no. i am not going to speed clear my way to lux12. i think its cheating. to me r12 no longer shows how experienced a player is and i can no longer make judgements on who i should take in my group.

Jecht Scye · Mar 13, 2010, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Hi, I've been playing since the Prophecies Beta Weekend Event(BWE) in 2005.

My advice: play Jade Quarry. It's the only fun form of "PvP" left in my opinion, even if it does boil down to killing or protecting NPCs.

Introverted Dimensions · Mar 13, 2010, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye

My advice: play Jade Quarry. It's the only fun form of "PvP" left in my opinion, even if it does boil down to killing or protecting NPCs.

To each their own. I can't stand playing more than a single game of JQ before I get bored and leave.

Barrage · Mar 13, 2010, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

My /age said 58 months since today and all I can say what ruined they game was the addition of faction/NF and EoTN. Faction destroyed Prophecies same with NF. While Prop was big awesome story more challenge with a decent balanced game play, and Faction and NF just crushed it with new skills, heroes and fast money making. And EoTN.... Come on PvE skills, Cons.... Dungeons were a nice update and new races such as asura oki cool. But it would have been more excited if faction would have been the next story such as pre to post was in prop. Once you go to faction lvl cap would rise more but you couldn't go back to prop anymore cus you finished it. To bad it was like this.

I think this post summarizes how all the older/veteran members of the GW community.

I think the problem that is occurring between all the people that argue in the forum is experience. People who started playing during the start of prophecies have had a TOTALLY different experience than the people who started playing after Factions. What the vets consider utterly retarded, the newer people consider it to be completely normal because they don't know any better / haven't seen Guild Wars without those additions (Cons, PVE skills , Heroes).

QueenofDeath · Mar 13, 2010, 01:54 AM // 01:54

What ruined this game is they let it turn into a solofest instead of a group oriented game. They should have never allowed such powerful solo builds which just decreased the number available for pugging. And I don't want to hear "we wouldn't have pugged anyway if they had of changed it" because I saw you all when Prophecies was new and first you were pugging like a maddog and pug groups were plentiful and easy to get into and going. Now pugging is rarer than solo play because of all the gimmick easy solo builds. I'm not saying eliminate the ability to solo I'm just saying don't make it so profitable above and beyond grouping.

Barrage · Mar 13, 2010, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath

. They should have never allowed such powerful solo builds which just decreased the number available for pugging. And I don't want to hear "we wouldn't have pugged anyway if they had of changed it" because I saw you all when Prophecies was new and first you were pugging like a maddog and pug groups were plentiful and easy to get into and going. Now pugging is rarer than solo play because of all the gimmick easy solo builds. I'm not saying eliminate the ability to solo I'm just saying don't make it so profitable above and beyond grouping.

They gave us Ursan, and you guys weren't happy, it's your own fault, get over it.

lunksunkunk · Mar 14, 2010, 08:28 AM // 08:28

do yourself a favor, purge this game from your hard drive and put in a security code that youll never remember and lock yourself from ever downloading or installing this game again.

they made their money. they could care less about what u want now. if i already sold you the car as is, and you came back to complain about the tranny, sorry, your loss.

not to mention, it was their intention all along. destroy the playerbase to drive them towards gw2 which will be horribly from what i've recollected. also destroying the playerbase you relieve the server load that they have to pay for that you dont supplement on a monthly basis. lastly, its obvious that anet had a failed business model. sell your game, hook them in, and then destroy the game so you dont have to pay for the rising costs of providing a service that honestly they didnt wanna pay for. by slowly wittling away the playerbase, it looks like they actually care, if your stupid enough to fall for that, then go play cod4 modern warfare where "no dedicated servers" destroyed their playerbase.

Shuuda · Mar 14, 2010, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by lunksunkunk

do yourself a favor, purge this game from your hard drive and put in a security code that youll never remember and lock yourself from ever downloading or installing this game again.

they made their money. they could care less about what u want now. if i already sold you the car as is, and you came back to complain about the tranny, sorry, your loss.

not to mention, it was their intention all along. destroy the playerbase to drive them towards gw2 which will be horribly from what i've recollected. also destroying the playerbase you relieve the server load that they have to pay for that you dont supplement on a monthly basis. lastly, its obvious that anet had a failed business model. sell your game, hook them in, and then destroy the game so you dont have to pay for the rising costs of providing a service that honestly they didnt wanna pay for. by slowly wittling away the playerbase, it looks like they actually care, if your stupid enough to fall for that, then go play cod4 modern warfare where "no dedicated servers" destroyed their playerbase.

You know so much, and you're cool.

That was sarcasm in case you cannot tell. Nothing about your post is intelligent, well written, original, or important. Thanks for playing.

Amy Awien · Mar 14, 2010, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath

What ruined this game is they let it turn into a solofest instead of a group oriented game. ...

Pugs were good while everyone was a noob having fun going through prophecies. The fun died when people with different intentions, goals and experience at the game ended up together. If you group an experienced player who's goal is trying to get masters, or grind for a title efficiently, together with a nebie trying to experience the content, both are likely to have a disappointing experience. It should come as no surprise that both players will turn to henchmen - and later heroes - to assist them with their playing experience, rather then stack disappointment on disappointment.

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Originally Posted by Barrage

They gave us Ursan, and you guys weren't happy, it's your own fault, get over it.

Ursan defiles the essence of RPG's by making all characters the same, by requiring all characters to be the same.